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Clydepuckett Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 12:33am  
@chasinghosts :
 
Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.
 
That's all you need. So, next problem?
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Clydepuckett Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 12:35am  
@chasinghosts :
 
BTW, what in your opinion led to any obstruction charge?.
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hutch5801 Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 4:37am  
Trump sought to obstruct Mueller - but White House aides (Sessions, McGahn, Lewandowski, Pompeo, McFarland, Mattis, etc.) refused orders by Trump. GodFather type tactics...........
 
WASHINGTON - President Trump committed "multiple acts" aimed at obstructing the Russia investigation, but was ultimately saved from being charged with a crime in part because his top aides refused to carry out his orders.
 
That, in effect, is a principal conclusion of special counsel Robert Mueller's report that, while clearing Trump or his campaign officials of criminally conspiring with the Russians during the 2016 election, documents with damning new details the president's efforts to impede and shut down the Russia probe after he took office.
 
Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations," Mueller writes in a key passage of his report, which was released in redacted form Thursday morning by the Justice Department.
 
But when faced with Trump's demands that they protect him and shut down the Russia probe, the president's minions repeatedly disobeyed him, the report states.
 
"The president's efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests," the report found.
 
Still, the report spells out how an enraged president repeatedly sought to either shut down or curtail an investigation he was convinced from the outset was a "witch hunt" that was unfairly targeting him. Those new details help explain Mueller's conclusion that while the investigation did not establish that the president committed a crime, "it also does not exonerate him."
 
"Oh my God. This is terrible. This is the end of my Presidency. I'm ****ed," ‼️ Trump vented to then Attorney General Jeff Sessions after learning that Mueller had been appointed as special counsel, according to notes taken by Sessions's chief of staff, Jody Hunt, that are cited in Mueller's report. "This is the worst thing that ever happened to me."
 
Trump's efforts to improperly influence the probe had begun even before that. After national security adviser Michael Flynn was removed for lying about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak on Feb. 14, 2017, Trump ordered then deputy national security adviser KT McFarland to draft an internal letter stating that he had not directed Flynn to discuss sanctions with Kislyak. McFarland refused to do so because "she did not know whether that was true," the report states.
 
On June 14, 2017, after learning that Mueller was investigating him for obstruction, Trump called then White House counsel Don McGahn at home and directed him to have Mueller fired for supposed "conflicts of interest." McGahn refused to do so, "deciding that he would resign rather than trigger what he regarded as a potential Saturday Night Massacre," Mueller's report states.
 
On June 19, 2017, Trump met in the Oval Office with his former campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and directed him to give a message to then Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who had infuriated Trump when he recused himself from the Russia probe.
 
Sessions should publicly announce that the Russia investigation was "very unfair" to Trump and that the president had done nothing wrong, he told Lewandowski. Furthermore, Trump wanted Lewandowski to tell Sessions he should meet with Mueller and, notwithstanding his recusal, he should let the probe continue, but be restricted to "investigating election meddling for future elections."
 
Trump repeated that request to Lewandowski a month later, on July 19, 2017. Lewandowski "did not want to deliver the president's message personally," so he asked senior White House aide Rick Dearborn to give the directive to Sessions. But Dearborn "was uncomfortable with the task and did not follow through."
 
As Mueller's probe began to focus on actions by Trump's family and close associates, Trump upped the ante and gave orders apparently aimed at concealing key evidence from the public and thwarting Mueller.
 
Mueller's report, for example, sheds new light on what happened when the White House learned about damning emails concerning the notorious June 9, 2016, Trump Tower meeting with Russian operatives offering incriminating information about Hillary Clinton straight from Kremlin files.
 
"On several occasions, the President directed aides not to publicly disclose the emails setting up the June 9 meeting," according to Mueller's report. Before the emails became public, Trump personally "edited a press statement" for Donald Trump Jr., who attended the meeting, promulgating a cover story that the meeting was about Russian adoptions. It was Trump himself who deleted a line in the press statement that acknowledged the meeting was with an individual who his son was told "might have information helpful to the campaign."
 
Just as problematic was Trump's attempt to influence the testimony of Michael Cohen, his longtime personal lawyer. While Cohen was preparing for congressional testimony, Trump's personal lawyer had "extensive discussions" with him and directed him to "stay on message." After Cohen's home and office were searched by the FBI in April 2018, Trump contacted him directly and told him to "stay strong." Cohen also discussed pardons with one of Trump's lawyers and "believed if he stayed on message he would be taken care of." But ultimately Mueller shrunk from recommending that Trump be charged with obstruction - even while rejecting the argument by the president's lawyers that he was immune from such a charge because many of his actions were covered by his constitutional authority to oversee the executive branch of government.
 
It is clear the president was saved, in large part, by the previously unheralded actions by McGahn, Lewandowski, McFarland and others in refusing to carry out Trump's demands.
 
But Mueller cites other reasons as well: In the introduction to his volume on obstruction, he cites a Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel opinion that sitting presidents could not be charged with a crime. Beyond that, Mueller writes, "we recognized that a federal criminal accusation against a sitting President would place burdens on the President's capacity to govern and potentially preempt constitutional processes for addressing presidential misconduct"-a reference to Congress' power to impeach.
 
But in the absence of a clear recommenda- tion from Mueller, Attorney General William Barr took it upon himself to decide the obstruction question. Barr explained his reasoning in a morning press conference that amounted to a vigorous defense brief for Trump, saying that Trump was "frustrated and angered by his sincere belief" that he was being unfairly targeted.
 
"President Trump faced an unprecedented situation," Barr said during his press conference. "As he entered office and sought to perform his responsibilities as president, federal agents and prosecutors were scrutinizing his conduct before and after taking office and the conduct of some of his associates. At the same time, there was relentless speculation in the news media about the president's personal culpability. Yet, as he said from the beginning, there was in fact no collusion.
 
"And as the special counsel's report acknowledges, there is substantial evidence to show that the president was frustrated and angered by his sincere belief that the investigation was undermining his presidency, propelled by his political opponents and fueled by illegal leaks. ... Apart from whether the acts were obstructive, this evidence of non-corrupt motives weighs heavily against any allegation that the President had a corrupt intent to obstruct the investigation."
 
In focusing on Trump's lack of "corrupt motives" in thwarting a criminal investigation, Barr did not address the question of possible political motives in wanting the probe ended.
 
Nonetheless, for all of Trump's unfulfilled orders and demands, the White House "fully cooperated" with the Mueller probe and allowed his aides to testify, Barr maintained. But that conclusion clearly didn't satisfy Democrats. Rep. Jerrold Nadler, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, noted Trump "refused to be interviewed" by Mueller and, after responding to the special counsel's questions in writing, refused to provide written answers to follow up questions. Now, Nadler said, he has called Barr to testify before his panel on May 2 and, perhaps even more significantly, intends to call Mueller himself "as soon as possible."
 
www.yahoo.com/news/t rump-sought-to-obstr uct-mueller-but-whit e-house-aides-w
 
I was ordered by my boss to take part in a questionable transaction (per customer's request). I said NO and refused his repeated orders........even threatened to drag up! The look on my 6'5" boss's face was priceless when I said..........Line 2--FBI and FYI (agents are downstairs)‼️
 
The customer(s) were WANTED for assuming others identifies, using unauthorized credit cards, bank fraud, mail fraud..........
BTW: He had no medical degree either. He and his pretend wife were CONS and LIARS ....sentenced to prison!!!
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hutch5801 Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 4:54am  
All the president's men and women: how disobedient aides saved Trump --
Mueller report reveals how staff told to do illegal things did not but some say that doesn't mean Trump is not guilty of a crime
 
www.theguardian.com/ us-news/2019/apr/20/ donald-trump-robert- mueller-preside
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TSUalum05 Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 5:16am  
I dated a girl before that anytime Bush was mentioned she jump in the conversation "Bush is satan".
 
@M1cha3lo0o :
 
Haha, I wonder what she thinks about President Trump. Haha
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rocket Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 8:19am  
Nonetheless, for all of Trump's unfulfilled orders and demands, the White House "fully cooperated" with the Mueller probe and allowed his aides to testify, Barr maintained. But that conclusion clearly didn't satisfy Democrats. Rep. Jerrold Nadler, chair of the House Judiciary Committee, noted Trump "refused to be interviewed" by Mueller and, after responding to the special counsel's questions in writing, refused to provide written answers to follow up questions. Now, Nadler said, he has called Barr to testify before his panel on May 2 and, perhaps even more significantly, intends to call Mueller himself "as soon as possible."
 
@hutch5801 :
 
Thanks for uploading this article. Unfortunately you will note that 45s staunchest supporters DON'T CARE. They really don't care that he lies, nor do they care he tried to obstruct a federal investigation. They're not moved by the fact he acts more life a mafia Don than a president. They don't care about any of that. Oh and the hypocrisy, you know as well as I if the previous president had done half the crap 45 has they'd be marching in the streets with torches and pitchforks.
 
So the next question is why do they turn a blind eye now? Because they see 45 as being one of them and he's speaking their language. So they understand not only his blunt talk but his innuendos regarding certain populations. As far as they're concerned he's speaking of empowerment. Returning them to their rightful place at the top of the pecking order. A place they feel has been stolen from them by affirmative action programs and unchecked immigration.
 
So 45 is here to save the day. That's why they could give a damn whether his campaign gleefully took help from the Russians or not. As long as he leads them back to what they see as their "promised land" they don't give a rats *** if he made a compact with the devil himself. They want "their America" back. And they want it by any means necessary.
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Fairlane67 Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 8:50am  
@rocket : BS! Just total BS. You guys just cannot get over yourselves. How about how this so called federal investigation got started in the first place. I am certain you and your ilk have no problem with that. You cannot even honestly ask yourselves, how and why did a SP get established on the suspect that the POTUS was an agent of Russia (Mccabe's words)...as rediculous as it, and the Pee Tape is....and after 2 years, say....absolutely no colluding with Russia! 2 years? This is the damn President of the US.
 
And ues you guys are still going, but i do not think you are going to like the outcome anymore than you do now....probably worse.
 
BTW as a person who was very lukewarm on Trump, and thought, oh well at least he is not Hillary...I cannot believe what people in our government and media, have said and done to him. You are right about one thing...his lukewarm and staunch supporters are now incensed.
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M1cha3lo0o Active Indicator LED Icon 6
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 11:01am  
Because they see 45 as being one of them and he's speaking their language. So they understand not only his blunt talk but his innuendos regarding certain populations. As far as they're concerned he's speaking of empowerment. Returning them to their rightful place at the top of the pecking order. A place they feel has been stolen from them by affirmative action programs and unchecked immigration.
 
@rocket : I gotta save this text to share my Hispanic and non-white coworkers that voted for Trump and then ask them why they are such bad people.
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rocket Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 11:32am  
You cannot even honestly ask yourselves, how and why did a SP get established on the suspect that the POTUS was an agent of Russia
 
@M1cha3lo0o :
 
You are writing about two different investigations. The investigation into whether or not 45 might be a Russian asset is not part of the Mueller probe. Secondly, in law enforcement circles we receive information all the time in the form of tips and so forth. Some of the tips pan out and some don't. However, if a tip or other information received rises to the level of warranting further investigation then that is what's done.
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chasinghosts Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 12:12pm  
chasinghosts : That's all you need. So, next problem?
 
@Clydepuckett : So you just ignore the very last sentence? Convenient.
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chasinghosts Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 12:14pm  
chasinghosts : BTW, what in your opinion led to any obstruction charge?.
 
@Clydepuckett : Let's just start by his firing anyone who doesn't agree with him or do his bidding. Not to mention all the Gov employees he asked to do him a favor that are just barely still employed. And then we have Sarah Sanders lying to make him look good. Just a pitiful bunch.
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hutch5801 Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 12:23pm  
res ipsa loquitur (Latin for "the thing speaks for itself")
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chasinghosts Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 12:36pm  
All the president's men and women: how disobedient aides saved Trump -- Mueller report reveals how staff told to do illegal things did not but some say that doesn't mean Trump is not guilty of a crime www.theguardian.com/ us-news/2019/apr/20/ donald-trump-robert- mueller-preside
 
@hutch5801 : In my eyes it's just like if you asked someone to kill your spouse for $$ and even though you are told no, you are still arrested for conspiring to attempt murder.
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hutch5801 Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 1:04pm  
@chasinghosts : Spot on. Trump is talking **** about McGahn who technically saved Trump's ***. Hell, even Corey Lewandowski didn't follow Trump's orders....allegedly he was ordered to get Sessions to un-recuse and say Special Counsel was NOT necessary--2 separate orders. Lewandowski tried to get Dearborn to handle Sessions. Trump finally told Lewandowski per the 458++ page report.....if Sessions wouldn't cooperate then Sessions was to be FIRED by Lewandowski. Yes, Corey took orders, but basically sat on all of them.
 
Someone had corrupt intent to interfere with an active investigation(s) ............ Guess Who??
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M1cha3lo0o Active Indicator LED Icon 6
~ 5 years ago   Apr 20, '19 1:14pm  
@rocket : what? I am not writing about two different anything?
You quoted someone else's words with a reply to me?
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