1960 Tree planting.
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1960 Tree planting. This has got to be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. During the course of the project to widen 1960, they completely clear-cut this area adjacent to and just west of Kings Park Way. Was full of mature trees and smaller trees naturally growing. Now they are planting hundreds of small trees. Why couldn't they have just left it alone as it was never part of the scope of the road?
Snecal, KathyMarshall and CarolS + 1 more reacted Replies:
From the internet: When major roadways are widened or constructed, large swaths of land are often deliberately left undeveloped or empty. These wide areas are called right-of-way (ROW) buffers, clear zones, and easements, and they are left open to ensure driver safety, manage environmental impacts, and allow for future utility or road expansions.
Transportation departments and urban planners leave these spaces undeveloped for several critical reasons: 1. Driver Safety & Clear Zones • Run-off-road protection: A standardized "clear zone" provides a flat, unobstructed area for drivers who lose control of their vehicles to safely recover or stop without hitting trees, buildings, or retaining walls.
• Sight distance: Keeping intersections, curves, and merges free of development ensures drivers have clear lines of sight to see oncoming traffic, signs, and hazards. 2. Environmental & Stormwater Management • Drainage infrastructure: Widening roads creates more impervious surfaces (asphalt), leading to massive amounts of rainwater runoff. These open areas house essential drainage ditches, bioswales, and retention ponds to prevent flooding.
• Environmental buffers: Empty space acts as a buffer to filter pollutants from road runoff before they reach local waterways, and partially absorbs traffic noise for nearby communities. 3. Utility Placement & Maintenance • Infrastructure corridors: These strips of land typically double as utility easements. They house critical buried or overhead infrastructure, including water mains, sewer lines, gas pipes, fiber-optic internet, and power lines.
• Construction staging: Large machinery needs physical space to maneuver, park, and store materials safely away from active traffic lanes during construction and future maintenance cycles. 4. Future-Proofing • Phased expansions: Acquiring land after a region has already built up is extraordinarily expensive and legally difficult. Transportation agencies buy wide corridors of land decades in advance so they can add future lanes, HOV corridors, or mass transit lines without displacing businesses or homes later.
KathyMarshall and CarolS reacted Transportation departments and urban planners leave these spaces undeveloped for several critical reasons:
• Sight distance: Keeping intersections, curves, and merges free of development ensures drivers have clear lines of sight to see oncoming traffic, signs, and hazards.
• Environmental buffers: Empty space acts as a buffer to filter pollutants from road runoff before they reach local waterways, and partially absorbs traffic noise for nearby communities.
• Construction staging: Large machinery needs physical space to maneuver, park, and store materials safely away from active traffic lanes during construction and future maintenance cycles.
It was already unused. And still is. It was unnecessary clear cutting
I'm taking a positive look on it and saying I'm glad they are replacing the trees that had to be removed for the road improvements. I haven't spoken to the design engineer or seen the design specifications I'm just glad they're being replaced.
Catmae, brightlights and Andi7 + 2 more reacted #msg2214728ParksideRes: I understand what you're saying but for as long as I can recall, when a new housing development was put up, the acreage was fully stripped of trees, etc. and then big rocks and roots were removed prior to infrastructure installation. If they left the trees, there would be damage as the root systems encroached on the piping. If they tried to preserve even a few trees around the new houses, the disturbance to the root system would cause those remaining trees to be very unstable and often blew over in a bad storm, damaging the homes. So they went back to clearing the acreage first for safety. Not sure if this applies to roadway construction too, but this makes sense.
My rental home in the Oaks had 13 original forest trees all well over 50 feet tall. Half of them were hollow. We removed all of them for safety reasons and planted some smaller ones. My parents had two trees from that strip fall on their house during Ike. So, I'm glad they removed the old growth and also glad there are new trees in their place.
brightlights, KathyMarshall and Catmae reacted #msg2214730KathyMarshall : Not this area. It was cleared and then never touched again.
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